Update II on North Click bar (front lines damage)

Although the North Click bar is our favorite bar so far, we did make an update on the damage on the front lines around the split point in March. Quite quickly North contacted us on this subject. We spoke with North again, a few months later after several of our readers including our self’s asked for an update on the matter. Basically they admit there is some wear out on one of the front lines around the split, but for the time being it will only be monitored.

Damage after 8 months
Wear out after 8 months

Pictures

We started by sending new pictures of the damage after 8 months usage of our bar. Consider us to be average users in an average (sandy beach) circumstance with little to modest UV influence since we mainly used it in the Netherlands. Two of the (enlarged) pictures which we had sent to North are shown.

We realize a broken (safety!) front line may get quite serious, since you will probably be forced to release the kite totally. For a 650 Euro bar this is the last thing you would expect.

North 

North, by person of Philipp Beckert at headquarters in Munich, had a look at the same pictures and talked to us (see also the reaction on this update below). He explained that there is a very small (known) amount of lines with extraordinary wear, but so far no broken line known. Also the shown line with our damage is not very likely to break soon. Compared to the well known wear out over time on the standard Quad bar, Wakestyle Bar and Foil Bar, in general this isn’t much of a difference on the Click bar.

So actual breaking isn’t known to North Kiteboarding, This is the main reason for having a free upgrade kit so far. North did inform its distributors though and is gathering information to monitor the issue to be able to react and right if necessary. They might decide to provide exchanging lines later, depending on the numbers and seriousness of the damage. As far as we know, lines that do break are replaced within warranty (use your +6 month registration bonus!) . Broken kites however may be a total different story.

But if you are in doubt about the chance your line will hold, or if you just don’t feel good hanging on to a damaged line there is one -quite tame- solution; order new front lines yourself for around 130 Euro. Our opinion would be to offer a more customer friendly solution from North by proposing a 50/50 deal on it (so for 65 Euro). It still may lead to such a deal, depending on the judgement of North on the number and amount of damaged lines.

Reaction on this Update II from North, Philipp Beckert:

I talked to our r&d again and so far no line broke and they´re sure that this amount of friction is not gonna break the lines. test bars are still out in Sri Lanka and Dakhla, spots with high uv intensity and aggressive salt crystals, with lines two years and older, where the abrasion actually stopped, once lines reached a certain grade of abrasion.

But we understand the issue raised and in doubt  have your lines checked with an experienced kiter or the shop where you bought.

Philipp Beckert, North Kiteboarding

 

 

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21 thoughts on “Update II on North Click bar (front lines damage)”

  1. Hi Rafael,
    thanks again.
    I will try to do a small interview with North on the click bar. I am also wondering how the 2018 version will last. I have not seen any body yet with it, so it is quite unclear if the new distributor will be much better.
    Dave
    We Test Kites

  2. Hi Dave.
    No issues so far on that spot. Just a little wear off but mostly blur of the Color. I also never had an issue with the loop. And I put a lot of stress on the Bar (83kg, high jumps and megaloops). But I assume if the quick release is not sand free before being assembled then this could somehow happen.

  3. Hi Lars,
    The pop out of the chicken loop you describe is new to us. We never heard it before. But thanks for sharing and explaining. Maybe now other users recognize the issue?!
    Dave
    We Test Kites

  4. I have exact same problem of wear on mine. But I also wonder if anyone has had a problem with chicken-loop pop-outs on the click bar. I have never had this with other bars, but with the Click bar it has released in high-tension situations. I suspect the lock stick being just 1-2 cm longer than on the trust bar, and at that this or the material means it can be pushed in a curve during a max pull in which then allows the chicken loop to pop out. Please offer your comments, as this has gotten me in really bad situations and I am now contacting North.

  5. Hi Rafael,
    Thanks for sharing!
    Did you also protect the lower part of the line (where the line comes out of the iron heart)?
    Dave
    We Test Kites

  6. Hi. I did a quick fix with a piece (3-4cm) of a one pump tube which comes with all North Kites as spare part. It fits exactly into the hole of the V-distributor and it protects the red safety line perfectly. This works for me since last year. No wear on the red line since then.

  7. Hi Jamie,
    We were afraid of it. We also broke a line (lower part) but we got a new line. The 2018 version did get an upgrade on these points, if it works will be the question. Lets keep each other informed…
    Dave
    We Test Kites

  8. North doesn’t warranty anything, and are quite quick to ignore these issues. I’ve had both safety lines completely break on both my click bars, at the Y split. On one occasion damaging my kite quite extensively. I have had to go out and purchase new lines for 309 US. This is after 6 months of use.

  9. Hi Stian.
    Thanks for your comment!
    The setup would limit you to about 35 knots. So if you get some stronger winds you might need to get a 7m to.
    As for the Click bar, we get more and more complaints of actually breaking lines. I would wait till it has protection at the V and at the insert in the iron heart. Depending of the amount of use you are going to break the ’17 version between 9-20 months roughly. Too soon to our opinion and we see most other brands have a proper protection at the lower point (insert in iron heart).
    Dave
    We Test Kites

  10. Hi, and thanks for all the awesomeness!

    I’m about 100kg with a twintip board (138×40-something), and have decided to go for North Dice 12m/9m setup. Any thoughts?

    I am also considering buying a click bar, but I’m wondering whether I should wait for next version before a buy. Rather expensive tho.
    Do you think it is worth the wait?

    Regards,
    Stian

  11. Hi Dwayne,

    Could you inform us where you acquired the material to perform this upgrade, the local DIY shop or..?

    @users in general: Does the functionality of the click system itself remains as agile/flexible as in the beginning of does it become a bit more rigid after a while?

    Rgrds,

    David

  12. No, North is still more or less in doubt and waiting for more feed back. What I have seen is that when you break it you get new lines.
    For 2018 they probably changed the v-distributor.
    Dave
    We Test Kites

  13. @Dwayne: How did you insert the stainless steel sleeve?
    My bar is 3 sessions old but I already started to see some wear. Want to protect the line in case North will not come out with warranty recall on the v distributor.
    And did you use normal electric wire shrink wrap? Can you melt the lines when you shrink the wrap by the lighter flame?

  14. Dave, you wrote – “This is the main reason for having a free upgrade kit so far.”
    Have North started to give a free upgrade kit to everybody who bought the click bar?
    Just bought mine and was wondering..

  15. Glad I saw your post on Reddit and discovered this site.

    I’ve used my North Click Bar for 3 sessions so far and I rinse it with fresh water after each session. After seeing this post, I got curious…… Good and bad lol.

    Good that I found this potential issue. Bad that the same red line on mine that goes through the black plastic v splitter is indeed showing some noticeably wear. This isn’t good, I’ve only used it for 3 sessions!

  16. I’ve had this exact problem with my click bar lines v distributor.
    On mine the blue 5th line got very worn and the v distributor hole had some quite deep grooves cut into it.
    I modified the v distributor by inserting a stainless steel sleeve into the guide hole for the 5th and safety line.
    I also put some protective shrinkwrap on the blue 5th line in the area were it goes through the hole for extra protection.
    I think this part needs a total redesign!

  17. Hi Rufus,
    Thanks for sharing your information. Could you be more clear on your issue? What do you mean by “underlines” and I think you mean shorter?
    Dave
    We Test Kites

  18. Y have a problem with the underlines.One site is scooter then the other.They dont know the problem, was told.So i ordered new ones, no problem,but still waiting ,two months already.Zeph control France told us that they are hard to get/order.I change the bar every year but because of this problem my next bar will be the regular one.No piece for change is horrible

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