Bar and lines Bandit 8 and Dice 2015

Both Bandit and Dice have a 4 line set up. The Dice kite comes with a 5th line (hidden in a pocket on the middle strut) for the kite, which means a 5 line bar could be used on the Dice. The North bar is available in one size only and costs (either 4 or 5 lines) 439,- and you could choose between 4 lengths;19m, 22m, 24m and 27m. For a dice 2015 22m or 24m is recommended. In this test we used 22m lines. According to North a 5th line is added to a better safety, but further is has n’t got any extra functions.

The f-one “Monolith” bar, unchanged from 2014, comes with 21.8m lines. The bar is available in 2 sizes; 45 and 52cm (for 11m and above).

The differences between the North and F-one bars are mainly to be found in the details; Continue reading Bar and lines Bandit 8 and Dice 2015

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Bridles F-one Bandit 8 vs North Dice 2015

So lets compare the bridle’s;

our assumption is that the way the bridles are set up is quite important to the feel you get from the kite. Let’s say maybe for 40% (andOLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA determine the feeling maybe just as much as the shape of the kite)? If we place both kites on to each other, as we did on the picture on the right with 9m’s, it doesnt appear to be so different from the Bandit to the Dice. They both have 4 to 5 connections on the leading edge. But the bandit has 2 pulleys, and the Dice just one on each side.

If we look closer to the pulleys, the North Dice (in blue) pulley doesnt have any moving parts. The pulleys of the bandit does have rolling parts (as the Bandit has had from the beginning).

Is this better? No! From my expierence a bridle line will -in time- be litterly scraped by those wheels, ending up broken, lets say in average use in about 2 tot 3 years. No need to say this means you won’t be able to control the kite any more if it brakes. So a small advice will be to check the bridle lines every now and then and make sure the wheel of the F-one Bandit pulley’s are not clocked with sand or by any other reason….And a small advice to F-one (as this scraping issue must be known by now?!); why not use a pulley without any moving parts….like the North Dice has.

Pulley Bandit 8
Pulley F-one Bandit 8
Pulley North Dice 2015
Pulley North Dice 2015
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Why testing North Dices & F-one Bandits?

We think the type of kites like, Bandit and the Dice (but also similar on-can-do-it-all kites like the Rpm of many others) cover 90% of the needs from the kiters. We guess if any brand, for example North, needs to cut their number of types of kites the Dice will be the one that stays. In fact F-one has done that about 8 years ago, and focusses with success almost entirely on its one-can-do-it-all kite: The Bandit. We think these kites will most likely will let you smile and feel good in any session for any purpose and any circumstance.

For example a pure freestyle kite (like a Vegas, Fuel or Torch) will only fit the ones that will be competing or trying to copy them. In most cases, no I should say “all cases”, those type of kites  suffer from being massively underpowered (especially the Vegas 2015!) on the same size as a Bandit or a Dice, and even be overpowered sooner; i.e. the smaller wind range is a huge sit back. Also we don’t appreciate the slowness and massive bar power on kites like a Ralley or Rebel which are maybe good for more airtime or in low winds, but will not give you the “fun-factor” of a Dice or a Bandit. So we choose to test these one-that-can-do-it –all fun kites by comparing them the next coming month extensively. From bar to bag, from bridle to pump system and off course the handling in the versatile conditions Tarifa has to offer in all will be extensively tested by us!

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